tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post356207226940115752..comments2023-08-13T05:12:22.668-07:00Comments on barbieannlove: Chivalry – Is it dead, or can it be resuscitated?Barbieannlovehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01619025450981748340noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-77375128969203333132012-03-13T21:31:08.872-07:002012-03-13T21:31:08.872-07:00The same thing happened to me with a turkey at tha...The same thing happened to me with a turkey at that same Thanksgiving activity (assuming it's the one i went to...). It put me in a very bad mood, but I eventually got over it.<br />As a response to the "restaurant bill test," that drives me nuts. I had a guy pretend to have left his wallet, and I nearly walked out on him. My brothers have taught me that any boy who is not willing to pay for everything every time and does it without need for recognition is not worth my time or thoughts. If a guy I am just getting to know judges me on that, he obviously doesn't recognize the value that I see in myself. That said, I don't need expensive dates. I love doing things for free or cheap, and I won't count it against you if you use a groupon. In fact, I feel a twinge of guilt thinking about the bill that you just footed so that we could spend a couple hours together. But trust me, if you keep dating me, I will make it well worth your while...jaimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07765278483444722372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-79792069750546267222012-03-02T09:33:46.835-08:002012-03-02T09:33:46.835-08:00Barbie, unfortunately, I'm only in the Denver ...Barbie, unfortunately, I'm only in the Denver area this week, and I'm headed back to the North Dakota oilfield tomorrow. Next time I fly out here, we'll have to catch a bite. Your blog is a breath of fresh air, and a really great perspective on the subtle social dynamics of Mormon culture, especially in relation to the rest of society.Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883226296951999273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-5468342904281175842012-03-01T14:05:44.209-08:002012-03-01T14:05:44.209-08:00Alright, here's my two cents. Guys who drool a...Alright, here's my two cents. Guys who drool and fawn over the "hot girls" and don't notice the girl who practices three times a week to be a good pianist for sacrament, or the girl who constantly brings food for linger longers, isn't worth your time anyways. These guys are shallow, and like it says in Doctrine and Covenants (paraphrasing) "His wages will be paid upon the work that he does".<br />There's a big difference between a boy and a man. A man knows the difference between right and wrong, and does it because it's his DUTY. A boy does it because he's told to. Now, this being said, a boy can become a man, but only if he chooses to.<br />As for being chivalrous and treating women with respect, this is how I feel. A good, honest man will treat all women with love and respect. A GREAT man will treat ALL people with love and respect. Even those who spit at him and despise him. Easier said than done, but keep your eyes open for these men, because they're the ones that will teach your children what they need to know effectively.<br />As for dating culture, I enjoy being kind and chivalrous on dates, -- HOWEVER -- I loathe women that EXPECT me to be gentlemanly in all ways, shapes and forms. I actually have a test that I do for this - The first couple of dates I understand that I'm expected to pay for everything, and I'm okay with that. But around the third or fourth date, when the bill comes I pause for a moment, and let it sit for a minute, just to see her reaction. If she never even offers to pay the bill by the sixth date, I'm seriously turned off, and she'd be lucky if I asked her again. <br />The girls that I've enjoyed the most dating are the ones who, on the first date, ARGUE with me over who's going to pay the bill. "No, I'm going to pay. No I AM. NO I AM!" Most of the time I split it with her (Like on a movie night, I buy tickets, she buys drinks\popcorn).<br />In a nutshell: I enjoy being chivalrous, but I despise being forced to be so. I don't want a leech, I want a strong, independent and meek woman who will understand if I'm broke.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833986422198397574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-56609512734585178592012-03-01T10:14:21.542-08:002012-03-01T10:14:21.542-08:00Cody, you are one of the best guys I know. Any gi...Cody, you are one of the best guys I know. Any girl would be beyond lucky to have you :)<br /><br />BarbieBarbieannlovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619025450981748340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-87290831017740249122012-03-01T10:13:52.590-08:002012-03-01T10:13:52.590-08:00Gregory, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the post...Gregory, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the post! I'm actually coming to visit the Tablemountain ward in a week or two, we should officially meet :) And I'm going to have to start reading your blog, I'm intrigued just by the title :)<br /><br />BarbieBarbieannlovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619025450981748340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-39323791259685916702012-02-29T15:55:13.553-08:002012-02-29T15:55:13.553-08:00Hey good post! I'm from the Tablemountain ward...Hey good post! I'm from the Tablemountain ward...Although I've been moving around between CO, UT, and ND<br /><br />My opinion is that there are LOTS more nice guys than there are jerk guys, but girls have been very focused on the "jerk" guys.<br /><br />I was, and still am for the most part a "nice" guy, but there really are many things people need to understand about the difference between "nice" guys and "jerk" guys. I think it would be very beneficial for both Mormon girls and guys to understand. Maybe then there would be more movement in the romantic lives of everyone.<br /><br />There is a reason that girls nowadays are gravitating toward these jerk guys. <br /><br />I think I'll talk about it on my blog today.<br /><br />But great post!Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883226296951999273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-87327695256320102542012-02-21T17:39:16.048-08:002012-02-21T17:39:16.048-08:00I will go back and read it all when I have time, S...I will go back and read it all when I have time, Soooo I hope that I don't shoot myself in the foot with anything I decide to say. Be prepared I'm going to make some pretty heavy comments here, and am sure lots are going to disagree. Chivalry is not completely dead, but there are very few females that actually truly want guys to act this way. Females have trained Males over a long time to act in a way the gets a positive response from women. Unfortunately this way of treating girls, as many guys and I am sure some girls will agree, is to act like jerks. Girls love the bad boy jerk! Just think about it for a bit, if all the girls in the world expected guys to open doors, give them their coat when they are cold, walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the road, etc. and wouldn't give the guys who didn't do any of these things the time of day, then guys actions and attitudes would change and chivalry would be reinvented. However that is not the case. Being one of the few “nice guys” in the world I can tell you right now the quickest way into the friend zone is to buy a girl a flower on the first date, pay for everything, knock on her door to get her (and not call from the car), walk her to her door at the end of the night, wait more than 1 date to kiss her, etc. Even though these things are “nice” most all girls don't want nice. <br /><br />In Conclusion, as long as girls continue rewarding jerk behavior and punishing chivalrous behavior then guys will continue treating females the way they do now and chivalry will always be the minority.Cody Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05570326881260981501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-63998359739729360262012-02-21T13:36:10.887-08:002012-02-21T13:36:10.887-08:00This was a great post. I'm opposite from you, ...This was a great post. I'm opposite from you, I almost expect guys to open car doors and doors to buildings. I would hope they offer to carry my things, that would actually be so nice to see come back. I feel like I am part of that same ten people thing. Maybe not all the time but often. I know that it's usually the women that breakdown tables and chairs and it's sad. Im a bit different than you were when the guy doesn't open the door or introduce me if I'm his guest I'm usually disappointed and let down.Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503291492103093681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1646738790769902651.post-31841643094561382422012-02-21T11:44:09.245-08:002012-02-21T11:44:09.245-08:00My dad is one of those good guys. He sets the stan...My dad is one of those good guys. He sets the standard high for any man I decide to marry. :)coco_angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357273721829512639noreply@blogger.com